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This decision took me far far too long to reach.

The final straw was in whatever stupid mode it got itself into, we could not even FORCE the boiler to make hot water, by pushing what is meant to be a manual override button. And my wife wanted to go for a shower.

So, that's the end of that shitty chapter. I'm glad that at least it wasn't a long chapter.

Disrecommend Hive.

If you move into a new house, don't try and fucking take over an old system. Rip it out.

Remember when programmer timers... didn't require and app, which required an email address, mobile number, etc etc etc? Remember those days?

This ordeal started with "hmm I really should figure out the hot water scheduling, as, frankly, it hasn't been reliable and we've been using boost a lot".

And ended with, "this is unusable trash".

Genuinely may temporarily put this in its place :

@bloor I bought an even simpler one, works brilliantly even with no internet.

I had a similar experience with a hive. Plus i didn't trust upnp to something I have zero control over.

Phil M0OFX

@Extelec @bloor Is it the usual 433MHz simple RF protocol style, or something a little fancier e.g. Zigbee?
I think the Hive is meant to be Zigbee but they stuck some proprietary nonsense on top.