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Re: changes at #ebay today: once we get out of the current political moment with extra boycotting skills and solidarity and have more spoons for smaller stuff, can we please please make it clear to big tech companies via collective action that they can't just get away with eg silently enabling AI training on all user data?

They're not even pretending its to help us any more.

Ebay opted you in to AI training on your personal data.
Perhaps #question this trend? I doubt many of you want this.

Apparently, "To turn this off, sign in to your account click on the Hi (your name)! > My eBay > Account > AI training preferences and you can toggle off the permission.'

#ebay#ai#aitraining

ALTERNATIVE #01: AMAZON

Comincia a essere chiaro a tutti quanto sia importante in questo momento STACCARSI DAI GRANDI MONOPÒLI americani.

Comincio dal n.1 nel commercio online: AMAZON (ma anche eBay).
Oltre al sacrosanto 'andiamo nei negozi', ci sono "marketplace" alternativi?
Non solo: c'è DI MEGLIO.
Scopriamo insieme queste vere e proprie chicche!

1) commercioVirtuoso (tante categorie)
Italiani, sostenibili e di qualità: i prodotti di questa giovane impresa promettono di venire incontro al commercio locale (acquisti dai negozi sul territorio), all'ambiente (la merce non deve percorrere mezzo mondo) e al valore della lentezza (opposta al "fast" del consumo usa-e-getta).

2) Bookdealer (libri)
Comprare dalle librerie indipendenti con la comodità di ordinare online: è questo l'obiettivo di questa iniziativa, che permette di trovare un libro in una delle librerie aderenti sul territorio nazionale e farselo recapitare anche direttamente a domicilio.

3) Emarketworld (tante categorie - no libri)
Un'altra startup italiana relativamente giovane, che si presenta come un marketplace onesto e con ottime recensioni, un vasto assortimento e la possibilità di trovare anche occasioni e prodotti ricondizionati.

4) PagineGialle Shop (tante categorie - no libri)
Sorprendentemente poco conosciuto, il marketplace di Pagine Gialle è molto assortito. Come su Amazon, i prodotti possono essere venduti dai singoli venditori o direttamente dallo Shop. Vale la pena di esplorarlo bene.
Da segnalare anche PagineGialle, che permette di trovare i negozi più vicini senza passare per Google Maps, e PGCasa, dove si possono reperire facilmente artigiani per tutti i piccoli e grandi lavori domestici.

5) Libri da Asporto (libri)
Non è un vero marketplace, ma un sito che raccoglie molte librerie aderenti, permettendo di trovare facilmente le più vicine sul territorio e di mettersi in contatto direttamente con loro (via email o whatsapp) per ordinare e farsi recapitare i libri anche a domicilio.

6) Subito (tante categorie)
Sicuramente più conosciuto (grazie anche alle campagne pubblicitarie), oltre ad essere un marketplace molto assortito, permette di pubblicare annunci e si configura perciò come una delle alternative nostrane che possono competere anche con eBay (tuttavia senza possibilità di asta).

7) Il Fedimercatino
E per restare nel Fediverso, che dire di questa bella iniziativa no-profit federata, collegata alla comunità Lemmy @mercatino? Il "Mercatino delle Pulci Online Eco-Sostenibile del fediverso" è un piccolo e giovanissimo spazio (in espansione!) nato per contrastare la cultura dello spreco, ridurre i rifiuti e promuovere la filosofia del "Regalo Consapevole" (ma è possibile vendere o acquistare prodotti con prezzi fino a 299€). Leggete bene la pagina about!

8) StrumentiMusicali / MercatinoMusicale (strumenti musicali, apparecchiature e accessori)
Tra i tanti siti specializzati in una sola categoria, presento questo (anche per... deformazione professionale), che ho sempre trovato affidabile, ben fornito e di riferimento nel mondo musicale.
Il Mercatino è inoltre un sito dove mettere e trovare annunci per ottime occasioni.

Gathering the people involved till now in this #fediMarket question to create some impulse and general discussion about this topic.
This is not a proposal but some thoughts and unfinished considerations, looking for some input or to become at least some output itself.

As @thomas pointed out there is #flohmarkt, as it looks like coded by @grindhold@23.social .

It has apparently the goal to be all the contrary to a centralized system but aims to be more like a local give away, sales and advertisement platform. Actualy it's not an auction like platform, witch is quite an interesting take. Still looking thru the ccc-Media video presentation trying to get a grip on it. As of now I didn't get the local restriction. Not sure if the restriction is mend to be by IP of the users, the IP of the platform of users or just some kind of instance restriction.

The #GNUtaler discussion in this topic points to the general issue not only about payment but also about the system of trust that can be or could be implemented.
It is and was quite interesting to see how the #ebay concept didn't catch up in Latin America because there was way to much fraud and the only thing that could catch up was some kind of sales platform like #mercadolibre that actually turned out to become some kind of national advertisement platform for professional sellers.

What did tho work in an astonishing way, and let's please leave aside for a moment some issues bitcoin does involve, is the concept #localbitcoins came up with, actually as well as the famous #Silkroad example. Sites that managed to create some kind of trustless exchange. The particularity of localbitcoins tho was that they invented a reference system where people actually even meet each other and backed up their existence by some how proving each others identity. Ultimately the reference and reputation system of localbitcoins, reputation out of completed transactions and comments about them, as well as in person verification, created a functional working environment, something that till today is looking for a match out there.

All these a real critical issues. And perhaps not only for trade but to a certain extent for our #socialWeb, our #fediVerse itself. On one hand we have commercial transactions that can involve fraud and on the other personal information that also can be exposed to fraud and worth. In our decentralized setup this is even somehow more complicated as fraudsters can restart at any given moment from anywhere else, while at the same time reputation on mid and long term should and can matter.
So, what we do have is on one hand the "real me" function implemented for example by mastodon, and on the other we do have the signing capabilities of blockchains themselves. In particular of #electrum wallets, a decentralized wallet system that was created and is implemented not only by bitcoin but a lot more blockchains that want to show off with a real simple decentralized #FOSS wallet system.
To get this straight, this is not about any coin or acquisition of any coin at all, but the simple technical availability of installing a simple long standing proven decentralized FOSS software that has the capability to sign or prove the correctness of any kind of text string. Nobody needs to have a single cent of a coin, or connect to anywhere, to create a wallet and with it a wallet address that than can sign a text. In other words, any wallet address is an ID that can't be impersonated without the respective password.
So, it doesn't matter where for example the ID "bc1qp8xla8me0ykkh5wzrvkjgtdnuma0galep9cedu" as a profile name shows up, or which profile claims to represent the ID "bc1qp8xla8me0ykkh5wzrvkjgtdnuma0galep9cedu", unless it is able to show off with a text, for example:
"I do have access to the signing keys for this ID" signed correctly with that wallet address, that profile could be considered an impostor.

To create show cases for this idea, for this concept, there is on one hand the friendica fediVerse site:
inversion.tupambae.com/
The profile "blockchain" for example uses the just mentioned specific ID:
inversion.tupambae.com/profile…
as some kind of "none human readable address".

Than there is the site:
1dhfsbbdpv4wshuyc6197nymcfeqqk…
The subdomain name itself is a first generation bitcoin address that has been used on the web and even if the capital letter detail is not in use, references are found for example by google.
That site hosts a project profile that again uses a bitcoin #SEGWIT address as an ID:
1dhfsbbdpv4wshuyc6197nymcfeqqk…
Actually the bc1 segwit system is not case senitive, in other words no capital letters in those ID's.
That profile itself is a reference to a mastodon profile that uses it to claim it's "real me" identity as "btc SEGWIT verified":
mastodon.uy/@tierranietos

Again there is not only no need for to involve bitcoins or cents of bitcoins (satoshis) in this. Even bitcoin itself doesn't have to be used, as there are lot's of electrum wallets out there. They do tho only verify texts signed with the same coin wallet. There is for example a #namecoin electrum wallet, a first generation coin invented to create a decentralized URL system, as well as there is for example a #faircoin electrum wallet. Considering all the altcoins created out there, faircoin at least is/was an interesting option that apparently failed to a certain extent due to the intent or claim by some in the community to be tradable on exchanges.
Again, this is not about any coin at all but about the fact that we do have simple unique ID's at hand we can verify and we can use to create reputation and or invent some system of trust and reference on desktop and mobile.

Than there is the consideration of guaranties and identities in the middle that allow escrow as implemented by localbitcoins.
This escrow issue would involve somehow coins/tokens, at least as some kind of guaranty until the transaction is finished. Be it as a general input to prove the seriousness of an involvement, an offer or even a publication. In terms of bitcoin itself, the second level segwit technology allows the creation of circles of trust without even publishing transactions to the main bitcoin #blockchain.

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@thisismissem @annewalk
@resl @NGIZero

Habt ihr ein Konto bei #Ebay? Am 21. April tritt dort eine neue Datenschutzerklärung in Kraft. Die Verkaufsplattform will ab dann eure persönliche Daten für KI-Training verwenden.

Wenn ihr das nicht möchtet, könnt ihr auf accountsettings.ebay.de/ai-pre widersprechen. Dort setzt ihr (nach eurem Login!) den aktivierten Schalter auf "Nein".

Warum es problematisch werden kann, wenn eure Daten in künstliche Intelligenz einfließen, lest ihr auf unserer Internetseite: verbraucherzentrale.nrw/node/1

I can't estimate how big the #unplugTrump movement is. However, I'd bet it's too insignificant to even be noticed by #ebay #paypal #meta #amazon #microsoft or any other American company.

That's the fundamental dilemma: The masses behave like brainless zombies, following the most seductive scent. We, the minority, can rant and rebel as loudly as we like, but we'll only attract their aggression. Maybe we should give up and just enjoy our lives, which are far too short anyway. We'll never be able to change the system and should leave this to greater forces than we could ever muster. Mother #Nature will soon make change inevitable. The minority cannot (any longer) avoid from being dragged dwon with them.

Ich kann nicht abschätzen, wie groß die #unplugTrump-Bewegung ist. Ich würde jedoch wetten, dass sie zu unbedeutend ist, um von #ebay #paypal #meta #amazon #microsoft oder welches amerikanisches Unternehmen auch immer überhaupt bemerkt zu werden.

Das ist ja das grundsätzliche Dilemma: Die Masse verhält sich wie hirnlose Zombies, die dem verführerischsten Duft folgt. Wir, die Minderheit, können noch so laut zetern und aufbegehren und ziehen doch nur deren Aggressionen auf uns. Vielleicht sollten wir aufgeben und einfach unser eh viel zu kurzes Leben genießen. Wir werden es nie schaffen, das System zu ändern und sollten dies größeren Kräften, als wir jemals aufbringen könnten, überlassen. Mutter #Natur wird bald einen Wandel unumgänglich machen. Die Minderheit kann nicht (mehr) verhindern, mit ins Verderben gezogen zu werden.